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Oyster Well-Known Member. MUI Goku in the new arc is the strongest, but isnt Vegeta SSBE stronger than UI Sign Goku? He didn't body the SSB forms as hard as Jiren did, and Golden Frieza was apparently able to hold his own for like, a full hour? Dragon Ball Super Broly Movie reveals that Broly is the Saiyan villain, but how strong is Broly in this movie? Vegeta has access to SSBE which is equivalent to Kaio-Ken X20 in the anime and Vegeta can access it at will after the ToP in the manga. Share Share Tweet Email. Here's why: Whether you love or hate the massive power-ups Goku and Vegeta have gone through during Dragon Ball Super, there has been one key theme to them. But no, Vegito needed SSB. Broly finds out his origins and how strong he really is back in the Dragon Ball movie 8. Also Unrelated but do people like Frost and Cabba get scaled to BoG Arc SSG Goku… Clearly, Broly is much stronger in The Legendary Super Saiyan. Dragon Ball: 15 Characters Even Stronger Than Goku. A Stronger Gohan than Broly movie 10 fought. Ssj3 is common touted as being 4x stronger than Ssj2 so if Broly was pretty much as strong as a Ssj2 then you give him 10x on top of that with Kaioken then I think it's pretty obvious that Broly takes this with ease especially considering the strain Ssj3 puts on Goku. Last edited: Oct 20, 2020. Fighting a 1v1 against a mastered UI Goku, Goku would take it. The one thing with Beerus that people have to remember is that Goku says that ‘he’s probably stronger than Beerus’ and I’m referring to Broly Movie . But even Prime Moro is much stronger than Jiren! Goku with mastered UI, Broly is still untrained and is in another level, let him control anger and ki and he is OP. Raw, physical strength would go to Broly. MUI Goku might be stronger than Full Power Super Saiyan Broly though. Later, we also got to see Base Broly bashing Super Saiyan God Goku along the length of glacier and boy it really looked painful. Moro's Spirit Fission would be a hard counter to him and I think MUI Goku at this time is stronger than Broly arc Gogeta. Speculation-wise it kind of seems like Jiren / MUI Goku is still stronger than SSJ Broly? ChadtheGoat Well-Known Member. Logically current UI Goku should be not only stronger than him, but on a totally different level completely. In Legendary Super Saiyan form, Broly is more power than Super Saiyan Goku, Vegeta, Piccolo (post-Kami fusion), and Future Trunks. I have no problems with Beerus being so strong, but there should be a reason. Imagine god broly or even ssgss. While these Fighters certainly got much stronger than they were before, the Zenkai improvements toolkit wise don’t look as impressive as they were some months ago. With power unleashed by the Dragon Ball Super version of Broly still so undefined (but potentially game-changing for the series), fans have been debating how Broly's power level now ranks against a version of Goku who has achieved truly god-like power of his own. Gordo solos David "Gordo" Gordon. Copyright 2020 ComicBook.com. That's no doubt a massive amount of power for a Saiyan warrior to have - and yes, it's arguably an unquenchable reserve of power that Goku doesn't have. 4 Did Broly Overwhelm Goku During Their Fight? SSB Goku was overpowering Wrath Broly and SS Broly is Wrath x SS. Any questions? By Kieran Docherty Sep 19, 2017. The LSSJ form is by FAR stronger than the SS2 form, Gohan in Base is about equal to Goku as a FPSS and stronger than Base Broly. Just like your Super Saiyan transformation. So basically Broly is as strong as suppressed Beerus. But while it's fair to debate the topic, ther eis one clear answer in front of us: There is no doubt that in a Dragon Ball Super context, Goku is stronger than Broly. Nonetheless, it took the power of all of Goku’s friends with powers like Super Saiyan and a super Namekian to get the edge over Broly. xD Broly >>>>> Moro > Jiren. Anyway, Goku fought Beerus at the beginning of DBS (he didn't even know the Super Saiyan God). By Kofi Outlaw DBZ Broly isnt canon. Krillin is a human from Earth and one of the characters who fight to protect … There goku is weaker than broly. Now the situation is different, he is much stronger than before (with Blue + Kaioken and MUI). Broly was clearly stated to be "strongest being in the universe" in M10 so that puts him above the Fat Buu who was fighting against SS3 Goku and enjoying it, and beating the shit out of Gotenks. So yes, Broly was stronger than Gohan SSJ2, not by much since he couldnt kill Gohan that easily, and this even isnt enough proof to say that Broly was stronger than Goku SSJ2, for example, since Gohan was even weaker then when he fought Cell. Even if Broly is a little bit or even a lot stronger than Beerus, Broly may not be able to contend with Beerus so to speak. At one stage, Vegeta's God form wasn't enough and he had to step aside for Goku. The end of the dubbed series currently is the broly movie after the tournament of power. He's probably not as strong as the angels though, but the angels can't even fight without dying. But SupremeGod91 will also take any opportunity to try and proof that Broly is strongest, even claiming that Base Gogeta is stronger than MUI Goku. As Merus tells Goku: "Rage, grief, joy - those strong emotions can translate to prodigious power. Goku has some clear advantages over Broly and all of them are key when it comes to a one-on-one fight. It will activate when you achieve self-control in the face of a jarring shock to your emotions. If broly is stronger than goku and vegeta. If that’s true, then Jiren, who has the power of a god, could really be stronger than all other Dragon Ball villains, including the Legendary Super Saiyan himself. The broly that was defeated by a weaker Gohan and help from a few super saiyan level characters. That quote, and Goku's mastery of god-level power through tranquility and control, is all the proof you need that he's stronger than Broly. Ultra Instinct Goku is faster, stronger, and more agile compared to his opponent and on top of that, there is a significant difference in their respective power levels. Goku is the strongest in the multiverse as of right now. Broly didn't just overwhelm Goku but he came close to defeating him to the point where Goku had to flee the scene. But they all wiped the floor with Goku. In fact, Akira Toriyama has described SSB as Goku's "overcoming a certain limit he has become both strong and tranquil, able to keep his composure in a fight.". Not trying to argue in my own thread, just giving an opinion. All rights reserved. Vegeta just got the appetizer but Goku got the main dish served to him. That was until Broly kindled his Wrath State and kept getting stronger with every attack. Goku's progression of Super Saiyan God, Super Saiyan Blue, and later Ultra Instinct all occurs through one slow but sure transition in approach: taking the great emotional power of Super Saiyan and tampering it with zen-like control and calm. Therefore, he has an amazing potential, and could harness even the first Super Saiyan transformation with more power than Goku or Vegeta. Goku alone could not beat him without destroying the planet with him. How can Broly even with amazing potential and rising battle power match them? By teaching Goku to achieve ultimate tranquility, and surrender conscious control, Whis helps Goku unlock the power of Ultra Instinct, to help him win the Tournament of Power. And how does Broly surpass Goku and Vegeta? Based on every detail in the manga and anime, we will choose Goku. Oct 20, 2020 #2 Moro wasn’t stronger than Goku, they were equal in strength and speed but Moro had magic which tipped things in his favor . Of course in the next arc there is a power jump so goku is most likely stronger then, but to my knowledge it never says and doesn’t let us know if … (lol) But even with that, Goku, Vegeta, and Frieza may have become indeterminately stronger since the ToP. Cell Saga Gohan. Where we are right now after the Moro Arc I'd say Goku especially cause he can use MUI at will from my underbut if Broly trained and was able to control his personality like Kale right before fusing. Facts. 1 Can't Defeat: Krillin. Dragon Ball Super: Broly finally gave fans a gift that they've been waiting on for decades: the official canonized version of Broly. That same kind of mindset is what the Saiyans' new divine ally, the angel Whis, helps foster in both Goku and Vegeta in Dragon Ball Super's later arcs. He was a beast before he turned ssj. 0. New scans from a Japanese anime magazine reveal ting revelations on how strong broly is compared to other villains Goku and Vegeta have already faced in the series... and we preview how Goku … Imagine if broly legitimately trained. The Anime is still on hiatus. Or I should say Broly is probably stronger than suppressed Beerus. Broly is stronger in forms that they have in common. Jul 7, 2020 #6 But LSSJ Broly isn't SSJ2 tier and nah, not fanfic lol! … That quote, and Goku's mastery of god-level power through tranquility and control, is all the proof you need that he's stronger than Broly. Iirc he cant go straight into MUI yet but he can go to Sign. But the technique you're after is the opposite. He prolly could become the strongest, In the Broly movie, Broly. Edit: Well technically Goku fought Beerus twice but both times Beerus was just clowning around. Moro easily beat both SSGSS Goku … Moro should win, SSJ Broly Beat Both SSGSS Goku and Vegeta and they had to run away due to the ass-beating they were getting. Broly >>>>> Any version of Moro (including a potential hypothetical Merus’ Angel powers copied Moro 73). With ui, goku. discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. The main reason behind it is that his Super Saiyan 3 is much stronger than Gohan’s Super … - April 14, 2020 01:50 pm EDT. See who can top the Saiyan legend. But that doesn't matter: In either form of Ultra Instinct (Sign or full-on Autonomous) Goku would have the speed, precision, and power to dodge any of Broly's attacks, and take things right back to the original Dragon Ball Z: Broly movie by punching right through the berserker Saiyan. Broly is even able to laugh off a … As we have noted in the beginning, Goku is stronger than Gohan depending on the manga alone. Goku has yet to beat the first 3 in a 1v1 fight. With your outdated and shortsighted logic the Vegito/Gogeta base form has to be stronger than MUI, you get a ridiculously stupid power scaling … There goku is weaker than broly. S. Saitou Hajime Well-Known Member. Such is Ultra Instinct.". Of course in the next arc there is a power jump so goku is most likely stronger then, but to my knowledge it never says and doesn’t let us know if broly has been training. Oct 20, … They faught in the movie and goku lost, he couldn't keep up with broly's ever-growing power, Vegito=Gogeta>>>MUI Goku>Broly>>>>>>>>Any other version of Goku, A discussion-dedicated Dragon Ball subreddit. (Going based off of him wrecking them and them needing to fuse. Movie 10 LSSJ Broly. Does broly have a better potential to be stronger than the gods (beerus and etc) than they do? Without ui, broly. Even in his most powerful form, there are plenty of Dragon Ball characters who are stronger than Goku. The gap between Prime Moro and Jiren doesn’t have to be very large indeed.. In Dragon Ball Super's manga, a second angel named Merus trains Goku to finally master Ultra Instinct, through similar means of emotional tranquility. Such a shame that they keep doing this. Goku has access to Kaio-Ken X20 in the anime version and at least Kaio-Ken in the manga. 5 days ago The end of the dubbed series currently is the broly movie after the tournament of power. Imagine Goku learned MUI, Vegeta learned MUI... they fuse. 14 days ago Mastered Ultra Instinct Goku is stronger than Broly. Then he was a monster when he turned ssj. Also, Goku said that Broly might be stronger than Beerus, while it was suggested by comments made in Dragon Ball Super that Beerus was greatly eclipsed by Jiren. Angelion DB Multiverse Translator's Assistant. Then Broly's doomed.) Feb 4, 2020 #23 Marvel said: Base Goku and Vegeta are millions of times stronger than they were at the start of the series and even by that time they were strong. I just finished watching the dub franchise and I am left with the question who I stronger goku or broly? As … And that's about it. On top of that, when Broly turns Super Saiyan and Full-Power Super Saiyan, he's going off of rage fueled by the death of his father. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. However, in the adapted anime series Gohan was meant and probably managed to surpass his dad which we can see on several occasions. 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Universe 6's famed assassin, Hit an extremely powerful character, strong enough … So he would be weaker than even jiren or broly in his mui state because all they have to do is outlast him few seconds before turning into a fat blob? Just say that Whis sealed most of his power because it helps him sleep better or whatever. This week two characters got a Zenkai at the same time, namely SP SSB Goku BLU and SP LSSJ Broly GRN. Broly> Goku> Vegeta individually. Thats DB Super Broly. You can read new Dragon Ball Super chapters online HERE. So saying that Broly could beat Goku SSJ3 is non-sense, at best. Comments? Broly seems to be more sturdy than Jiren. With Broly now a part of a Dragon Ball Super universe where Saiyans are literally achieving god-like power, the debate about which Saiyan is the strongest has started up all over again. 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