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Gohan is not stronger than goku he cant go super saiyan anymore and goku goes ssj3 goku is stronger plus he loses ALOT of his strength during buu saga so goku is stronger This question depends on what stage of the manga you're asking about: Buu Saga (also counting Movie 12) or post-Buu Saga. In that form, she can match Ultra Instinct Goku stride for stride. goku ssj3 is stronger than ultimate gohan. Maajin Buu might be a little bit tougher, but it would be a fight in Gohan's favour. AND kid buu repelled the s bomb so goku needed to go super saiyan just to push the spirit bomb, gotenks > super buu, and goku is stronger than kid buu. And SSJ3 is a FORM, not a power level. Goku also said he and Vegeta together could not beat Super Buu even in his normal form. his flashy attacks tended to work. He was also distraught from having Goku (and Trunks) die. I'm just saying that Piccolo stated that Gotenks in his SSJ form was useless against Super Buu, but when Gotenks trained in the RoSaT, Piccolo was pleased by Gotenks' strength in just his base form. The fact his arm got injured just made Gohan think he was down to half of his power due to his special confidence problems. what? This is shown in his fight with Hirudegarn where the so-called natual genius called SSJ3 Gotenks was knocked out by Hirudegarn in two blows and Mystic Gohan was easily sent flying into a building while SSJ3 Goku withstood all of Hirudegarn's moves and eventually beat him using Dragon Fist. Lets put it like this kid buu being insane means hes dumber and weaker, "no gohan could have done it alone but vegeta wanted the earthlings to save themselves.". Okay wtf did you say? and gohan was beating him up but doing no real damage. It's pretty simple, besides a FPSSJ3 or MSSJ3 to where it wouldn't drain his energy, would be more than enough for Ultimate Gohan. The current order of which one is strongest is inverse to which one has the highest potential: Goku is stronger than Gohan who is stronger than Goten. Nevertheless, it would be interesting to see Captain Marvel fight a Saiyan. SSB Goku remains stronger than Gohan Gohan surpass and toys with SSB Goku but NOT UI Goku Gohan toys with SSB Goku, and surpasses UI Goku but NOT MUI Goku Gohan defeats MUI Goku Gohan toys with MUI Goku, thinks there is nothing special about it Goku and Gohan become exact equals. 0. stop editing posts. OMFG somebody keeps on putting kid buu in the arguments he died from who??? you act like super buu is a pussy and not much of an opponent. The same goes for Gotenks, they may be more powerful than Goku and Vegeta but those two have way more experience and skill than the raw power of Gohan and Gotenks. as i recall, gotenks went ssj3 without anyone ever showing him how. Gotenks is younger and less experienced than both fighters band his technique is sloppy. Well whoever is stronger....think of it like this. Their is proof in the manga and in the anime. so just stop. - Tien, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCfHHyRTUSg, http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jd0Sxotf4aI, TheDragonThatHasLongSinceForgottenHisName, https://dragonball.fandom.com/wiki/Forum:Is_ultimate_Gohan_actually_stronger_than_a_ssj3%3F?oldid=1344764. vegeta said goku was the ONLY one who could fight kid buu. So he used his mind tricks to break gohan down. Again, we have them as equal. the only reason goku used genki dama was because he put his faith in vegetas plan to use the people of earths power to save themselves. Super Buu, in the anime, even said something along the lines of he sensed Gohan and was just playing with Gotenks until he got there. Now, in Wrath of the Dragon, when fighting against Hirudagarn, Ultimate Gohan gets pummeled. Marvel's Sorcerer Supreme, Doctor Stephen Strange is considered to be the best in the business as far as the mystic arts are concerned and he can, quite easily, put the strongest of supervillains to the test with his creativity. If … Goku's the man's father & he still grabbed Vegeta over him when kid buu destroyed earth, fully knowing which would better a better aid in the final battle against kid buu. The only thing I can say to this is because of the plot. that was japanese dub. And Piccolo and the others sensed that Buu became far stronger when he became Super Buu. I dont think Ultimate Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Goku. She can easily get into Ultra Instinct Goku's head and deal with him there instead of fighting him where he feels comfortable. Ultimate Gohan > SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ1 Gotenks = SSJ3 Goku. goku is rarely wrong and if he is, that means theres some contributing factor. 30 Stronger: Goku. Like Galactus, Silver Surfer can manipulate energy, he is telepathic, he can time travel, and can manipulate matter. But the only reasons Goku defeated Hirudegarn were through strategy (taking advantage of Hirudegarn's temper). Now we know that Goku said he could have beaten Majin Buu (and he said this pretty definitely) when he first met him, and he seemed to be holding his own against Kid Buu, but concluded that though they were about equal, Goku didn't have enough power to actually beat him. Gohan got beat by Buutenks. and lol kid buu is ABSOLUTELY NOWHERE NEAR gohan. . RELATED: Dragon Ball: Goku's Martial Arts Masters, Ranked From Weakest To Most Powerful. SSJ3 Gotenks > SSJ3 Goku > Base Gotenks. goku didnt NEED vegetas help or shenrons. Okay,I think Ultimate Gohan is more powerful.Gotenks SSJ3 was equal or a little more powerful than Super Buu,Gotenks SSJ3,having a advantage.But Gohan fought Super Buu and Buu didnt touch him,making him stronger than SSJ3 Gotenks.And Goku stated that Gotenks is more powerful than Gotenks.Ultimate Gohan was EQUAL,not less powerful,than Super Buu with Gotenks and Piccalo absorbed,BUT Piccalo's smarts beat him.And SSJ3 Goku vs Super Buu (Gotenks & Piccalo Absorbed)never happend.It never happend in the manga,therefor,Super Buu with Gotenks & Piccalo absorbed,I think is stronger than Kid Buu,is stronger than SSJ3 Goku.And the last movie of DBZ,Wrath of the Dragon,Gohan couldn't hit him because Hirudigarn was moving,But when SSJ3 Goku fought him,he was moving alot more slow and barley moved,just stood there,but Goku STILL got hit several times.Goku got a lucky shot at him because I think he left his gaurd open.But by the 13th movie,I believe Goku as a SSJ3 was stronger than when he fought Kid Buu,making him stronger than Gotenks at that point.I still think Gohan is stronger by a little by Wrath of the Dragon,but in the Majin & Fusion sagas,Gohan beats Goku by a lot. Except it's fully possible, has been done in GT, and your a complete idiot. Sure they untapped his true power but that doesnt mean thats his full strength. As we all know that Gohan is better than Goku so you can all continue to sucking dicks and licking pussies thank you. SSJ3!!! Who was stronger, not the better fighter, but stronger in raw power. On top of that AFTER he fought Kid Buu he said at full power he could beat him so obviously at full power he's stronger as he knew what Kid's strength was when he made that statement. Ok, now Buiccolo lost the power of Gotenks SSJ3, but in place gained the power of SSJ Trunks and SSJ Goten along with Piccolo's power. Goku still able to take a several beating while provoking Hirudegarn = Tough Being the herald of Galactus, he has the Power Cosmic, and Silver Surfer has used his elite-level superpowers against some incredibly tough supervillains. In fact, some say that Base Gotenks (Post-RoSaT) would rival SSj3, although I don't believe it as he (Base Gotenks) still lost to Super Buu, while his SSj form did better. But still Ultimate Gohan is stronger than SSJ3 Goku.BardockGoku 08:19, October 22, 2011 (UTC). I for one follow the Anime. While Future Yajirobe is still a coward who shies away from a fight, living in a war-torn world has definitely done him a favor. So in real life it's Gohan, and don't know if goku or gotenks because goku said he want sure if he could beat fat buu mainly because of his energy consumption rate but he also said he wanted to give someone else the chance of beating buu because he said he doesn't have the right to kill buu because he's dead Therefore, we can say that ssj3 goku was more powerful than ultimate gohan. Frieza is equal to SSB Goku who is way stronger than Gohan,which makes Frieza stronger than Gohan. yea goku made a logical move in war, Damn it Gohan was unconscious and Goku didn't have the time to save him.Ucell 07:10, January 13, 2012 (UTC), Just look at this. Well gohan was no Mystic when he gave his energy. goku was unable to reach full power vs kid buu because ssj3 eats up too much energy in his living body compared to when he trained in otherworld. gotenks got crushed meaning that statements bullshit. Goku always wins. In this video, it's shown a different type of showcase for Super Saiyan 2 Youth Gohan and new Super Saiyan Kid Goten from DBLegends. Most likely Ultimate Gohan due to him being one of the strongest characters in the anime, it's said that sometimes Gohan has the potential to even be stronger than Goku at times. Gotenks is a fighting genius?! Frieza is equal to SSB Goku who is way stronger than Gohan,which makes Frieza stronger than Gohan. Take a look and decide by yourself http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tCfHHyRTUSg. U r twice as strong as u were ever before, your speed your power". Mystic Gohan>>Super Buu=SSj3 Gotenks>>>SSj Gotenks (Post-RoSaT)>>>SSj3 Goku. read it again. So this already says SSJ1 Gotenks >= SSJ3 Goku. Like Gohan, Captain Marvel can also transform when she has absorbed enough energy. But when Gohan fought Hirudegarn, he was easily beaten, while Goku, again as a SSJ3, easily defeated Hirudegarn with his Dragon Fist. That being said, one can't deny that the first name that comes to the mind of anyone who hears the words Dragon Ball is Son Goku.. She was able to summon mythical creatures, eat sines, and even raise the dead, among other things. SSJ3 Goktenks fought evenly or superior to Super Buu. Here are my lines of argument: 1. ssj gotenks x 7 = ssj2 gotenks. Goku even said in the anime himself Gotenks is stronger then him. He even said Gohan can handle Piccolo Buu. Ok lets make this clear. So Goku is better in the end but i would say Gohan will always have more potential. gohan is the strongest unfused character in dbz stated by AT so stop debating over it and realize:ssj3=unfused and gohan is the strongest unfused character in dbz!Dont think of metioning gotenks..you should know ultimate gohan is stronger than ssj3 gotenks. hes a fighting genius in terms of creating powerful techniques like ghost kamikaze in just one week. Ultimate Gohan is stronger than Super Saiyan 3 Goku from Dragon Ball Super. WE DON'T KNOW WHICH BUU IS STRONGER. the reason that goku is weaker than buu is because he needed vegetas help to stop kid buu and he needed the spirit bomb which isnt his own energy. Except base Gotenks fought Fat Buu and got his ass handed over to him, while SSJ3 Goku could have beaten him. But in manga it's really just whatever you believe it to be. When Vegeta and Goku say that Kid Buu>Super buu it was when it was transform to the Ultimade Buu when he absorve the North kai That strong Kai. and then he became SPC and wounded gohan but onyl because gohan had to shield vegeta. He said that they are no match for his strenght, wanted to get outside and fuse in order to beat buu and they notice that they were smaller than fleas after that. ssj3 gotenks was definitely more powerful than super buu. To those arguing with Goku's statement as some kind of fact, Goku has been wrong. Gohan had his power unlock twice. Gohan is much stronger then Goku. Actually SSJ3 Goku in Fusion Reborn is a different Goku than canon. Okay, I'm going to stop this. When Gohan came along, he dominated him. Things aren't always as they seem. If he did he meant Fat Buu. like gohan vs cell. in the manga, if you have a huge power, you win. no you dont. Goku also always uses his unique foresight that forces him to make certain decisions. Rogue is one of the toughest of them, thanks to her very unique superpowers. Since we never saw Vegito really try all that much except for one instance when he stopped Buu from breaking the dimensional barrier, we have no gauge to use except the evidence offered by the Kais. all he means is that gotenks is stronger in base so he must be stronger in ssj too. For starters, Gohan couldn't beat Super buu Gotenks absorbed While Goku, who, stated that Buu's power had increased greatly after transforming into kid buu, was an equal to kid buu and even had the advantage at some, points in the fight. He can rival Ultra Instinct Goku in terms of pure strength, although he might fall short when it comes to battle speed and reflexes. Captain Marvel's Binary form is achieved when she absorbs enough energy to unleash upon her opponent. He wasn't smiling, he was serious, goku also said they were no match for his strenght, See when vegito got absorbed and goku and vegeta ventured inside of buu. Super Dragon Ball Heroes: Dark Demon Realm Mission! It is important we must stop the debate here as thing r very unclear. "no he doesnt. "you cant have the "strength of a ssj3" ssj3 is a form not a power level. Also, about the debate above, Gohan is a LOT stronger/faster than Goku, but seriously lacks fighting instincts. He compared the results he thought he'd get by fusing with Vegeta, to Gotenks. goku clearly stated that he could have beat fat buu before, but didn't just because he wanted to give gohan and the kids a shot. gohan far surpassed ssj3 gotenks based on their individual fights with super buu. Mephisto, Marvel's version of the Devil from Hell, provided humans with the Spirit of Vengeance, Ghost Rider, and there have been a lot of hosts who have walked with the demonic spirit. Gotenks was barely able to keep up with Super Buu in his SSj3 form, whereas Goku was stronger than Fat Buu, and >= to Kid Buu. And we already established this, GT base Goku (or maybe just SSj) = Z Goku SSj3. So the gap is only 400 times at the most, which still proves nothing. In an OPINION Goku is stronger than Gohan because that's all any of these can be are opinions. Was going to school, gets married and has a job, while goku...is still training. Are you completely out of your mind? But there is no doubt that Ultimate Gohan is strong!! and so are you. Fortunately, the Marvel Universe has a lot of superheroes who can rival Goku's Ultra Instinct. Goku in particular is like 30+ years older than Goten. This might not be the case in GT since Gohan stopped training, no he didnt. gohan and the others gave very little contributions. He used flashy attacks that he thought were "cool", and he never actually fought Buu hand to hand. In Dragon Ball Super, Gohan has become a complete family man, being a devoted father and husband. He never really fought Super Buu he just through his shitty unpredictable attacks at Buu. And I mean stronger than regular Super Buu not the Z Fighters absorbed versions. no one believes that, especially piccolo. toriyama had nothign to do with the american dub so not only is it non canon, its literally fanfiction. There are arguments on both sides but we can as the series proceed, the villains get stronger and stronger. and who died??? so what? IMO Yes. he still has the power level. When Cell came back stronger, he also came back at 100% energy/stamina. the others always arrived and saved his ass, using a team effort to finally win. in fact goku never won a fight by himself. This argument proves my point that there had been a mistake in the story but some people wont agree!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Goku told Majin Buu that "a fighter even stronger then me is coming". the only reason goku won is because hirudegarn was tired, got his tail chopped off and goku had dragon fist which could penetrate hirudegarns defences. In Dragon Ball Super, Gohan has become a complete family man, being a devoted father and husband. I do not believe they were equal, since he clearly was pounding on Gohan. Well lets look at that "fight" Goku "fights" buutenks for all of 60 seconds and the only time he manages to land a proper hit is when buutenks pauses and fires at Gohan, beyond this moment buutenks is pretty dominant and laughing while Goku is nervous and fighting to survive. it doesnt matter if he has more experience or not. goten and trunks had about one year, maybe less and they have already blown goku out of the water, even at their age. Then people say there's no evidence he got weaker when he absorbed the Kai he only "calmed down." Comparing Super Buu after he absorbed Gotenks and Mystic Gohan however was like comparing Frieza's third form to Piccolo on Namek. Plus Kid Buu is stronger then super Buu. YES WE DO. Then again at the time it stilled drained a lot of Goku's energy. Until Vegeta was able to reach SSj4, EVERYONE ELSE other than Goku was USELESS by themselves. . http://www.mangareader.net/105-3160-13/dragon-ball/chapter-511.html. could roshi beat raditz? . First of all, everyone knows about SSJ3 Gotenks having a slight advantage over Super Buu, and Ultimate Gohan had an overwhelming advantage, thus making him stronger. When they ripped Fat Buu out he expected Buu to get weaker to where he didn't have to worry bout being full power but he didn't, it was the opposite, he got stronger cause the Fat Kai's influence was gone. It is implied that Gohan is, since it is his unlocked potential. Goku didn't had enough energy to remain an ssj3 for a long time that is why he was counting on the fusion technique. he was kicking ass. Dragon Ball Super Episode 90 Was Incredible!! kid buu wasnt getting any stronger. Goku SSj3 is stronger than Ultimate Gohan, in GT. Trunks and Goten even remark that their power is great as well. 18:42, October 25, 2011 (UTC), Ya I figured that I was supposed to do that. As far as individaul characters, Gohan is the strongest at the end. IMO Gohan would be stronger. Goten easily has the most potential of the three but he’s never really been focused on, so he remains the weakest by several orders of magnatude. 5 Ghost Rider - 10x Dragon Kamehameha 14:14, December 28, 2011 (UTC), Buutenks stated himself to be the strongest buu to date and buuhan stated he had powered up from before, goku didnt even dare to fight any super buu form, 2. If post-Buu Saga, Mystic Gohan fell behind as he began to focus on things like dating Videl and studying to be a scholar while SSJ3 Goku trained continuously an probably kept perfecting his mastery over SSJ3. A mortal like Goku doesn't stand a chance against the immortal Spirit of Vengeance. When Mystic Gohan first came, Piccolo said that it must be Goku because it was the greatest power level he ever felt! Gohan does not. Janemba4eva 19:45, October 21, 2011 (UTC). Janemba4eva 14:25, August 16, 2011 (UTC), Yes ultimate Gohan is indeed stronger than ssj3 Goku BUT at that time Gokus ssj3 transformation was untrained so by the end of DBZ I believe Goku surpassed Gohan again but of youre talking about when super buu was around then yes he was.76.92.231.147 02:45, August 18, 2011 (UTC)BrownPrince2011. Movies are non-canon and cannot be put in debate as most of them have a HUGE amount of plotholes.I can never forgive you for what you've done! So he hadn't mastered it, but at that moment maybe Gohan was stronger. your opinion is worthless because you follow a dub that is basically fanfiction and intentionally dumbed down for little kids. Here's why: after fighting Majin Buu, Goku implied that an even stronger warrior than him was coming. thats why he was ssj3 in just a week of training and thats why he kicks goku's ass. However, goku might have said that gotenks is stronger. When he was near Super Buu he knew that Super Buu wouldn't let him reach his full power and that Gohan could defeat him on his own anyways. When Goku was dead he shouldnt have been the one to kill buu since he wasnt alive, but since he was fully alive theres no reason that Goku couldnt have killed Buu, unless of course he was weaker. I...am Supreme Gohan! This should be enough to prove that Gohan is stronger however some people like to refer to the filler fight between goku and buutenks and use that as evidence. Mystic Gohan could've destroyed Super Buu, which is waaaaay more powerful than Fat Buu. He did in fact say he could definately beat fat buu. Kid Buu is the pure Majin Buu. And ss3 goku does have the highest power level out of characters. The person who commented above(not in bold) has already provided proof. If there were 1000 SSj3 Goku's during Buu saga, they would easily kill Buu, whereas you fail. gotenks wasnt "barely keeping up". She can manipulate energy, control it, absorb it, shoot it, and use it to power up. Vegeta strives to surpass Kakarot. Hercules is way out of Goku's league. To be very clear, Ultra Instinct Goku might not be able to reach Blue Marvel's incredible potential in a lifetime. I'd say Full power mystic Gohan might be stronger than SSJG Goku and can probably hold his own against SSJB like android 17. So yes, Ultimate Gohan is stronger than a Super Saiyan 3. yes he did use ssj3. Comment. For all his power with fusion, the only thing he was able to amount to was being <= to Super Buu. It is very clear not unclear in any way. Then when buu absorbed piccolo and gotenks, his power level was the same as gohan, but he had piccolo's smarts. there is no possible way for goku to ever beat gohan. He was also distraught from having Goku (and Trunks) die. Gotenks was equal with super buu that it was far stronger than super buu.And ofcorse Gohan that was stronger than Gotenks is obvious that was also stronger than Super Buu. your the only one who can fight him. So that is why Gohan lost. If AT were to rewrite the ending and have Ultimate Gohan defeat Kid Buu', the ending would be anti-clamatic which will make the story lose its popularity. gohan was beaten because his power wasnt great enough. That doesn't even make sense. he defeated cell when he was a child and goku couldn't as an adult. is My . goku wanted to wish gohan and gotenks to the battlefield. So the bottom line is Gohan beats everyone below buutenks, User:Dbzfan999sig 17:59, October 25, 2011 (UTC) Actually this is the order Gohan> SSj3 Gotenks > Super Buu >>>>> SSJ Gotenks <=> FPSSJ3 Goku. I don't see how Gotenks and Ultimate Gohan and be in anyway weaker then him. so goku > super buu. Even more proof, SSJ3 Goku fighting Buuccolo told him he's not planning to beat him in that form(or something very similar). If you enjoyed, then like and Subscribe! Not men. Remove them from dbz and i m more than ready to accept that Gohan was stronger. Dude, wtf? It is obvious that Kid buu is weaker than Super Buu because Goku could na.ot even handle Fat Buu. ssj2 x 4 = ssj3 gotenks. BoG also shows SS3 Goku to be stronger than Ultimate Gohan, while making no note of Gohan slacking off or losing power of any sort since the end of the Boo saga. and no goku wasnt able to fight buutenks at all. It is obvious that Kid buu is weaker than Super Buu because Goku could na.ot even handle Fat Buu. SSJ2 Gohan DID use his full power against Cell. 10 Marvel Superheroes Who Are Stronger Than Ultra Instinct Goku. Goten is literally millions of times stronger than Goku was at his age and thousands of times stronger than Gohan was. Obviously he would be. On the other hand, when Piccolo Buu was made, Goku said "Gohan can take you now". actually i do give evidence. why, if gohan was enough? no he never "overestimated" gotenks. Gohan was also able to force Goku to use SSB kaioken after tanking multiple hits from SSB Goku. Sorry, I'm don't know whether goku or Gohan is stronger in other world but the buu saga, Gohan is for sure. Disasters GoOn (talk) 15:48, February 22, 2013 (UTC)Disasters GoOn. Now one other notible thing is when Buutenks reverted to Piccolo Buu. Gohan does become stronger than Goku, but not necessarily significantly so. Oh, and by the way Ultimate Gohan is his max power unlocked as his base form. look what happened. The Kai's are not a reliable source. and even more evidence points to goku > gohan in the manga buu arc. Afterwards he laughed it off. he said "like this we cant win" meaning they were too small to fight. This disillusionment is evident thats why we r not able to decide who is mighty,goku or gohan. could freeza beat cell games gohan? Either way Kid Buu power level is close to or over 60 billion. Goku in SSJ3 could have taken Fat Buu if he really tried. 121.222.11.242 07:16, August 15, 2011 (UTC). What do you mean Goku had no faith in his power? He also said he watched everything while he was in the other world so he knew of Gohan's strength yet he still said ONLY Goku can fight Kid. That's just his lower half. I...am Supreme Gohan! Adding on to that Vegeta said Goku is the only one capable of fighting Kid. dragonball0900 3 months ago #18. Ultimate Gohan is definatly far stronger then SSJ3 Goku. Piccolo only questioned Gotenks speed and when gotenks went to fly to fight buu piccolo was only worried that he only had 1 minute left, also that gamble comment was because they needed to master a difficult tecnique in two days and considering how stupid gotenks is he would play around suring the fight and might run out of time, fat buu would kill him after that. And When Goku beat Hirudegarn, it was a plot hole. Thats just dumb. SSJ3 Goku also fought Buutenks for a minute, he did a terrible job and was also thrashed like a child. I think Ultimate Gohan is because He had no problem against Super Buu befor he absorbed Gotenks SSJ3. Tokeupdude 21:57, October 21, 2011 (UTC). 121.222.11.242 07:16, August 15, 2011 (UTC). . I'm pretty sure that ssj3 goku is stronger, but if they fought ultimate gohan could win he draw out the battle because of the amout of energy needed to sustain the ssj3 form. 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